Legalize Marijuana, Pa. Senator Says
A Montgomery County state Senator wants to legalize marijuana in Pennsylvania and sell it alongside alcohol in the state-run liquor stores.
By Melissa Daniels | PA Independent
HARRISBURG – State Sen. Daylin Leach, D-Montgomery often compares Pennsylvania’s marijuana laws to the alcohol prohibition laws of the early 20th century.
He says it’s a culture war that one day will end. Maybe sooner than one might think.
“I’m sure that in 10 years, we will look back on prohibition as a quaint relic of the past,” Leach said.
Leach, one of the state’s most progressive lawmakers, introduced legislation to legalize marijuana use for adults age 21 and older. Leach’s legislation envisions marijuana sold alongside alcohol in state liquor stores and beer distributors, with production, distribution and sale regulated in a similar way as alcohol.
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Leach made the social and economic case for marijuana legalization at a Monday afternoon news conference, where he said that keeping marijuana illegal makes criminals out of people who “smoke a plant.”
Leach said keeping marijuana illegal is irrational on several levels, comparing it to alcohol and tobacco that can be deadly but are legal. Marijuana, conversely, is prescribed medically in 18 states.
“Like the original prohibition, the prohibition of marijuana has resulted in damages far in excess of what the actual substance we’re controlling could ever do,” he said. “This is a cruel, irrational policy that we’ve had for 75 years without revisiting.”
But in Pennsylvania – especially this session – Leach’s idea is little more than a pipe dream.
Janet Kelley, deputy director of communications for Gov. Tom Corbett, said he would not sign a bill legalizing marijuana.
“Governor Corbett has personally witnessed the devastation of illegal drugs on Pennsylvania communities throughout his career,” Kelley said in an email to PA Independent. “He does not believe that loosening restrictions on illegal drugs is in the interest of public safety.”
Leach said that he didn’t think it was rational for the governor to “keep people in prison or threat of prison for marijuana” while offering up a proposal to increase the number of places that can sell alcohol, referring to Corbett’s latest liquor privatization push.
Leach said the administration is leaving millions of dollars on the table.
The state spends about $325 million a year prosecuting nearly 25,000 marijuana arrests, according federal statistics from 2006. If the drug were legalized, Leach said they would not only save that money, but make additional millions from taxing marijuana — at least $25 million a year, he said.
Opponents to legalization point out that social costs could outweigh the benefits. The Office of National Drug Control Policy compares the situation to alcohol, which they say costs more than it takes in.
“Federal excise taxes collected on alcohol in 2007 totaled around $9 billion; states collected around $5.5 billion,” reads the federal government fact sheet on legalization. “Combined, these amounts are less than 10 percent of the estimated $185 billion in alcohol‐related costs to health care, criminal justice, and the workplace in lost productivity.”
The office bolsters the drug’s danger by citing negative effects of marijuana as “dependence, respiratory and mental illness, poor motor performance, and impaired cognitive and immune system functioning.”
Leach doesn’t necessarily have public opinion on his side. The latest Franklin and Marshall College poll found that 55 percent of polled Pennsylvania voters oppose marijuana legalization, compared to 36 percent in support.
However, legalization marijuana for medical use has widespread bipartisan support. The poll found 82 percent of polled voters “strongly” or somewhat” favor allowing adults to use marijuana if a doctor recommends it. About 76 percent of polled voters said the same in 2006. The poll surveyed 622 Pennsylvania voters between Jan. 29 and Feb. 3, with a margin of error of 3.9 percentage points.
Terry Madonna, executive director of the Center for Politics and Public Opinion at the college, called the support “overwhelming.” But without any real legislative push, the concept wouldn’t go far.
“To do this it take the leadership from the Legislature and the governor to endorse it,” he said, “and I haven’t heard that to be the case.”
Leach said while he supports medical marijuana proposals, he does not think that solves the problem of “marijuana prohibition.”
Allen St. Pierre, executive director of the Washington, D.C.,-based National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws, has lobbied on behalf of state and federal policy changes for decades.
He said seeing a legalization proposal pop up in Pennsylvania was surprising, but that it’s happening more and more — especially since voters in Washington state and Colorado approved legalization in a referendum in the November 2012 election.
“We did not have the commonwealth of Pennsylvania on our radar scope at all,” St. Pierre said. “We think that’s indicative of how politically salient the issue for marijuana reform is today.”
Ten states have legalization bills pending, compared to one state five years ago, St.Pierre said. And a federal discussion began on Capitol Hill last week with pro-marijuana proposals from Reps. Jared Polis, D-Colo., and Earl Blumenauer, D-Ore.
Their bills would create federal laws regulating production and retail sale for marijuana in states that have already legalization consumption for medical or recreational uses.
“Mr. Leach may be slightly ahead of the curve in Pennsylvania, but he’s pretty much on the curve nationally,” St. Pierre said.
Contact Melissa Daniels at melissa@paindependent.com
Frank
9:33 am on Thursday, February 14, 2013
I agree and would even go further. Stop the idiotic "War on Drugs" altogether. It's costing us billions and as we have seen over the last few decades, it's going nowhere.
Rachel Thompson
9:47 am on Thursday, February 14, 2013
this is the only thing that makes sense and the state will gain massive revenue rather than feeding the police state's more tax dollars for its endless need to make citizens into crooks.
FlyingTooLow
11:50 am on Thursday, February 14, 2013
We all know that someday, soon, this prohibition will end.
I spent 5 years in Federal Prison for a marijuana offense.
The memorable day that I met with the parole panel, I asked, "When pot becomes legal, what will my 5 years spent in prison have meant?"
Their response, "That is a very philosophical question. We don't deal with philosophy in this office."
Case closed...go back to your cell.
When the 5 years were gone, I walked out and never looked back. But, I know to this day, there are thousands of Americans still rotting in jail over a plant.
I wrote about the escapades that led to my imprisonment...my book:
Shoulda Robbed a Bank
I would be honored by your review.
pmickelson
10:10 am on Thursday, February 14, 2013
I am coining a new campaign slogan for our future lawmakers to live and campaign by: "Dump the Draconians"
Patrick Shane
10:29 am on Thursday, February 14, 2013
Estimates show that marijuana is America’s number one cash crop. However, marijuana remains untaxed. This is a new source of income for our nation, an income we desperately need.
Over 500 of the nation’s top economic professors have shared their opinion in supporting the removal of prohibition and imposing the taxation and regulation of marijuana as a way to slow the federal deficit.
Marijuana prohibition is costing America upwards of $20 billion annually. The hemp industry would not only create jobs, it would free up court time and jail space for real criminals among many other benefits. The list could go on.
Sign the petition in the video description.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_tUy6fylQs
FlyingTooLow
11:50 am on Thursday, February 14, 2013
All card-carrying members of the DEA need to read: Shoulda Robbed a Bank
Here is one of its reviews:
5.0 out of 5 stars... If David Sedaris had written 'Catcher in the Rye'..this would be it, June 30, 2012
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I have never smoked pot in my life...nor do I ever care to.
I read about this book in numerous Huffington Post comments. Thought I would read it because I know nothing about marijuana or the people involved with it. I am ecstatic that I did. Funny, Funny, Funny!!!
The chapters are like short stories. Stories about unloading boats with helicopters, close encounters with law enforcement, traveling through the jungles of South America. The chapter about the author's first time smoking marijuana made me feel like I was with him...coughing.
All of the characters were just a group of loveable, nice guys and girls. Not what I had been raised to believe...hysterical maniacs high on pot bent on death and mayhem. They were nothing like that.
If you have ever read any of David Sedaris' books, and like them...you will love Shoulda Robbed a Bank.
And the crazy things happening reminded me of Holden Caufield in 'Catcher in the Rye' and the way he staggered through life.
The way the words are put together are like nothing I have ever heard. I am sure I will use many of the sayings found in this book just to dazzle my friends. A terrific read. I love this book.
Michele K
12:08 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013
FlyingTooLow you made a choice to do something illegal. A lot of folks don't agree with a lot of laws, but you don't get to pick and choose which to comply with and not pay the price. I'm only sorry you are being permitted to profit from it.
As to the rest of you who only want to tax something else, let's see how you feel after a high driver injures or worse kills someone you care about. What about the employees you rely on, or maybe even the doctor performing your surgery? You want them legally smoking pot while they drive a forklift, draw your blood, or deliver your packages? There's no pot checkpoint, there's no breath test that will catch them. These aren't just cigarettes and we should not be treating them so lightly. "Because everyone does it" is not an acceptable reason to do something.
FlyingTooLow
12:57 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013
@ Michele K...
"...the essence of tyranny is the enforcement of stupid laws,”
---Edmund Burke
With all of the rhetoric surrounding the marijuana debate, the concept most overlooked:
Freedom of the individual.
“…over himself, over his own body and mind, the individual is sovereign”.”
— from the essay On Liberty by John Stuart Mill
What happened to, "This is a FREE country"?
That is what we have been telling the rest of the world for decades.
Please, let us live up to it.
Lead by example.
I wish you the very best.
Russ Fiddy
8:09 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013
How about mind your business! You do not have a clue about what you are talking about. The illegality of Cannabis is political end of story. It's Cannabis that helps us to tolerate ignorant people like you. Do some research and enlighten yourself before you open your mouth and condemn people. People who do far worse things spend far less time in jail than Flying too low.
Sorry to hear you lost time for a ridiculous draconian law Flying too low.
Will Ghill
11:50 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013
I respect your opinion but you are overlooking some key points.One I agree while it is against the law, those who decided not to obey and get caught should own up to there faults , but your second statement is ignorant to the fact when marijuana is legalize, it will be treated as alcohol. You wont be allowed to drive under the influence and I believe most business like doctors and forklift drivers in your example wont be allowed to be under the influences while clocked in. Also you forget alcohol, which almost all people would agree is more dangerous to consume then marijuana, kills a lot of individuals even though it is legal. Responsibility is the issue when it comes to drunk driving as it will be with driving under the influence. Yes as of right now there are no "pot checkpoints," but most likely law enforcers would find a way of checking for this if its becomes legalized.
FlyingTooLow
8:08 am on Friday, February 15, 2013
@ Russ Fiddy...
Great post, Sir...many thanks.
It's time to end this fiasco. Quit playing this stupid game. We are free Americans. Not some children to be coddled and told about 'the boogey man.'
Anyone in the United States with half a brain sees what a horrible hoax has been carried on since 1937.
Stop locking people up for a plant that could possibly save the US economy. Not to mention its medicinal values. We may be on the cusp of huge breakthroughs in the field of medicine ...completely unlike 'big pharma' who have been killing thousands of our citizens per year.
FlyingTooLow
10:25 am on Saturday, February 16, 2013
@ Russ Fiddy...
A million thanks for your post on my blog.
My e address is on the copyright pages of both of my books.
Shoulda Robbed a Bank
Welcome to Prison-Enjoy Your Stay
I hope to hear from you,
Hugh Yonn
PANDORASBOXX
11:47 am on Saturday, March 30, 2013
I CAN TELL U RIGHT NOW FROM EXPERIENCE THAT I AND EVERYONE ELSE ARE MUCH SAFER DRIVING AFTER SMOKING A JOINT THAN WHEN I HANG OUT IN THE BAR FOR THE EVENING!
kelly brown
12:20 pm on Thursday, April 4, 2013
theres ALWAYS one idiotic person that has to give the "what if" .... honestly its 2013- get it together!!! marijuana is in NO MEANS a physically addictive drug- and the commercials of high drivers running children over on their bike is 1 in a million... less likely than you overdosing on your pharmaceuticals or too much alcohol- anyone that says not to legalize it, is highly biased and/or insanely jealous that their body cant handle being stoned... pisses me off
FlyingTooLow
12:28 pm on Thursday, April 4, 2013
@ kelly brown...
Well said.
BushW
12:40 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013
Are you blind? His new law says DUI of pot would still be illegal. Also Corbett could care less what we pay on stupid taxes and he could care less about an all natural plant. You know why??? It's because no one will die off of it like they are with non all natural tobacco and alcohol. If it stays on the streets though then we will have more deaths from people mixing whatever they want in buds. Thanks Corbett if this bill isn't passed, expect to see many of your Citizens moving to a safer state.
Wallst
1:29 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013
LEGALIZE IT NOW!!! There are lives being saved right now from hemp! Hemp (when blended correctly) KILLS CANCER CELLS!!! Big Pharma hates this fact because you can not patent a plant and they can't make any money off of it. Research the movie "Run From the Cure" to learn more. Everyone with cancer can heal themselves!
Tony
2:09 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013
the alcohol lobby is very much against the pot legalization because the amount of money alcohol sales might lose if pot is legalized. Alcohol is a very dangerous drug that can be highly addictive and obviously can cause many deaths, yet, and I say yet, there are pro alcohol people I have seen on other posts on this site, that are soooo against pot legalization. unbelievable. legalize the pot. lets stop this ridiculousness.
Matt
2:36 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013
Mike k you don't have a clue what your talking about. Do u realize how many people do that already? Maybe if they legalize it then the laws for driving high will increase witch they should deffently be huge fines and jail time for drive in high or drunk. All of the working people still can't smoke it at work just like they can't drink on the clock. So how is a doctor going to be working on you high? Lol
Sheriffchris
2:40 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013
I agree wth him. There certainly is not enough carnage on our roadways now, I mean with alcohol drinking and driving. Phones and texting driving ...we certainly can get some more dope smokers out there well to increase the overall death rate for innocent people....keep up the good work senator !!!
Russ Fiddy
7:55 am on Friday, February 15, 2013
Yet all of these things you mention Sheriff cell phones and alcohol are perfectly legal. Of course with viable restrictions- personal responsibility and the law rightly dictates not while driving just as it is, should, and would be with Cannabis legalization. Which by the way is far less distracting than the former two. Also let's face it there are already people on the roadways doing all three. Unfortunately, there will always be irresponsibility and there are rational laws on the books to deal with it DUI, loss of driving privilege, fines for texting and driving etc...
Reconsider your position sir we need folks like you committed to keeping people safe we don't need laws that destroy the lives of people that can contribute to society rather than rotting behind bars
Matt
2:47 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013
I agree
Matt
2:51 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013
Ok think of it this way. Drink ten beers and try to Walk Smoke as much marijuana as u can handle and try to walk. If anything alcohol should be the illegal drug not marijuana. So stop lieing to your selfs please and look at the facts
Sheriffchris
3:03 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013
I was CHIPS for 10 years and i ahve seen enough..too many...deaths due to being high from weed. Alcohol is worse ...I agree..but MJ smoking will be worse once legal..
Jacob
2:51 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013
Tony I agree, lets think of how much alcohol brings the state AND alcohol related crimes. They already can pull you over for no reason to checkout how much you've had to drink. If people can smoke weed they will drink less period. Next the gateway theory doesn't make sense if I can get arrested for weed or crack it makes you think they're on same level which isn't true. Look into history and why weed was taxed so high then govt brainwashed future generations.. Presidents and Olympians have smoked..need anyone else to think about?
Elyssia Mathias
3:42 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013
Yes! Legalize it! We need MORE stoned people!
Liss M
4:13 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013
does anybody even know Jesus Christ was baptized with cannabis oil. everybody's acting like its evil….
"The holy anointing oil, as described in the original Hebrew version of the recipe in Exodus, contained over six pounds of keneh-bosum – a substance identified by respected etymology, linguists anthropologists, botanists and other researchers as cannabis extracted into about six quarts of olive oil along with a variety of other fragrant herbs.
"The ancient annointed ones were literally drenched in this potent mixture."
Source- http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/2633187.stm
sybilla lestrange
5:52 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013
Those who use, will use...legal or not...
those opposed, will not...
Imagine the space if all mj offenders were released from jail/prison...
imagine the economic benefit...
imagine all the people living life in peace...
just imagine...
FlyingTooLow
8:27 am on Friday, February 15, 2013
@ sybilla lestrange...
Well said.
Mike
6:24 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013
No way it won't be worse. Alcohol will always be worse no matter what you say. Alcohol is legal and do people drive drunk?? Yeah they do. This is just like the stupid gun laws. Put a gun in the wrongs hands and they do bad things. Same as mj everyone pushes the law. I don't agree with it but they do. Simple legalization won't cause the state to all go out and drive high.
Amend Wun
8:46 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013
Legalize. Regulate. Tax and stop incarcerating. Senator Leach is right about the savings and FlyingTooLow is right about freedom. The incarceration rate in PA went from about 8,000 in 1980 to about 50,000 today. Taking someones freedom away for a personal habit is unjust and deplorable, and is ruining our urban communities. I also agree with Senstor Leach's concept of using our existing state store system as an initial control mechanism. Unless Corbett sells them off that is.
FlyingTooLow
8:15 am on Friday, February 15, 2013
When I was in, the entire Federal Prison population was just over 28,000. Drug offenders made up 53% of that number. I see today that population has risen to over 218,000.
Prison is big business. It used to be called 'slavery.'
Mean Mom
7:38 am on Friday, February 15, 2013
There are many people here in PA that need a bill passed for MEDICAL purposes. Not everyone just likes to "get high."
My 2 Cents
7:54 am on Friday, February 15, 2013
I'm sure the number that need it for REAL medical use would be much smaller than those that would try to abuse it.
FlyingTooLow
9:26 am on Friday, February 15, 2013
@ Mean Mom...another testimonial:
I copied the below comment from another website. I think the American veteran who wrote this sums it up very well:
"I am a disabled Army Veteran and smoke marijuana strictly for medical purposes. I never smoked before I broke my back in the military and it hasen't been a gateway to anything. I started smoking because of my cauda equina syndrome.
I had a herniated disk in my lower back that compressed the nerves at the lower end of my spine (cauda equina nerves). The doctors couldn't prevent permanent damage, so I am left with permanent pain that is so severe that it leads to vomiting on a consistant basis without my medacine (marijuana). The doctors prescribed me morphine, oxycodone, oxymorphone, oxycotton, hydromorphone, hydrocodone, etc... All of the above named meda...
cines made me useless, I hardly knew what was happening around me. On top of that, they didnt help with the pain or the vomiting from the pain. I felt like bugs were crawling under my skin.
After complaining about this for a while, friends and family handed me cannabis. I was reluctant at first, due to the stigma that goes along with it. After I gave it a try, I realized that it was far and away a better solution than any of the above named DRUGS. I had none of the issues with cannabis that I had with all those other PHARMACEUTICAL DRUGS. I can function and carry on with my life. Marijuana has made me a better person and a far more functional parent and husband."
Blackdemon
7:54 am on Friday, February 15, 2013
It is still going to be Federally illegal, so it really doesn't matter. I work in the peoples Republic of Jersey were they have medical marijuana. My company told us, if we flunk a random piss test a prescription makes no difference. National drug free work place make it illegal. Although you can take mind altering antidepressants with a prescription. Makes sense to me????????????????????
Ladythoughtz
9:29 am on Friday, February 15, 2013
The two most dangerous drugs thats killing people everyday is alcohol n cigarettes n their legal marijuana doesn't effect u in anyway but makes u want to eat n it's illegal this gov is sick n things needs to change
FlyingTooLow
9:39 am on Friday, February 15, 2013
@ Ladythoughtz...
The closest I have ever seen marijuana come to harming anyone was during an air drop. We brought in 1100 pounds from Jamaica and dropped it in a peanut field in middle Georgia. The bales were dropped from a small plane at 125 feet altitude. One of the bales, about 80 pounds, missed my compadre by only a few feet... but it surely messed up his truck.
My 2 Cents
10:52 am on Friday, February 15, 2013
Well Ladythoughts it has been proven in both the US and Australia that people who do it under the age of 17 go on to addictions to harder drugs and/or alcohol. I know I am going to get comments that 17 and under shouldn't be doing it anyway, but we can say that about alcohol and smoking, but some kids still do. If adults in their home have this around it could be much easier for some kids to get hooked and go down a bad path in life. I know I'm a minority here in my view of this issue, but I think that is something worth mentioning.
Legalize not Criminalize
12:51 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013
I've been red green color blind since as far back as I can remember I never thought anything about it though growing up because that's how I saw colors it wasn't until I was 9 when my one teacher had a feeling something wasn't quite right with me and colors so I took a ishahara test and found out I am red green deficient and was told that there is no cure and I will be partly color blind the rest of my life. Receptors in my eyes cannot properly put colors together which makes colors look like other colors or I just cannot simply tell what color it is. If you hold a green and brown or red and pink or blue and purples of similar tone I can't tell the difference. Here is where we bring in Marijuana. I've been smoking this simple plant for just about 5 years now regularly. I started to notice some different variations in certain colors mostly brown, green, red, pink, purple and some shades of blues that looked more vibrant and that I coul tell them apart more easily! Awesome! But how? Why is this drug illegal? It's less harmful than a glass of water... I say less because you can drown in water. You can't die from Marijuana. It's not physically possible. But yet it's still a schedule 1 narcotic. This is bullshit, pardon my French. Just an outraged citized who physically saw the benefits from marijuana first hand, literally.
FlyingTooLow
1:07 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013
@ Legalize not Criminalize...
This is something you may want to share with other websites...anything to do with sight or color blindness.
Terrific story...I hope your sight continues to improve.
Jeepers63
2:28 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013
As tho there isn't enough problems with the drug called alcohol. Now your going to add 'pot'? Now the kids can be drunk, be high on pot & text while driving. But hey, don't smoke tobacco.
Mike
3:51 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013
@jeepers63 why doe it always come down to diving high? I'd much rather see someone driving high then drunk. Not that I agree with it but its true. You can fully function on pot and possibly act better on it.
Jeepers63
9:42 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013
Research.... I did that for 18 yrs. First it was beer, then beer & pot or just pot, then beer & speed (meth.) All drugs, including alcohol are mind altering, it's that simple. You can not fully function on being high on pot, unless your always sitting on your sofa & how many are gonna do that. I have been sober & clean now for 28+ yrs. & I wouldn't want to live my life any other way.
Mike
3:52 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013
Does*
Mike
3:57 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013
It's not going to be legal as much as we all want it to be. It would make way to much sense for are gov to deal with. Why put millions back in are state and make everyone happy ? No way that's to much thinking for us
Jeepers63
9:45 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013
Something is either legal or it isn't.
Jucy J
12:22 am on Saturday, February 16, 2013
Fucking do it already !!
jindov
12:45 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
Using Marijuana is as harmless as whistling and yet getting caught can ruin your life. This benign plant has been used by mankind for millennia and yet because of one misguided American president, Richard M Nixon possession is a federal offense. We all know how things worked out for him but his legacy remains. Alcohol is the single most destructive drug that mankind indulges in. It promotes aggression and destructive behavior while conferring absolutely no benefit. It also wrecks your liver, wrecks your marriage and distorts your judgment and perception of reality like no other substance. Pot does none of that. Being high is not being drunk and for those of you who posit this false equivalency, you're just wrong. I've never seen pot wreck a marriage. If anything, it's a sedative that relaxes, reduces pain and promotes creativity. We could use a lot more pot smokers and a lot fewer drunks. The world will be fundamentally different if that were to occur.
FlyingTooLow
1:33 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
@ jindov...
Great comment.
Thank you.
Jeepers63
2:37 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
Not everyone reacts the same way when drunk or stoned. You can't say being stoned isn't going to ruin a relationship. First it's pot that can ruin a life, besides the getting caught part.
Salvatore J Cucinotta, Esq.
3:38 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
GET THE THUGS OUT OF DRUGS.
Salvatore J Cucinotta, Esq.
3:39 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
LEGALIZE